{"id":7477,"date":"2011-03-08T18:24:04","date_gmt":"2011-03-08T23:24:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/blog\/?p=7477"},"modified":"2022-02-18T07:42:55","modified_gmt":"2022-02-18T12:42:55","slug":"pitiful-count","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/blog\/pitiful-count\/","title":{"rendered":"It Counts but It&#8217;s Pitiful"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>We\u2019ve had a lively discussion <a href=\"\/blog\/?p=7455#comments\">in the comments<\/a> in relation to the &#8220;I\u2019ve Barely Been There&#8221; article. I described the official 12MC Rules in the original article: if I touch the geographic area, no matter how briefly, I count it as a visit. I defined &#8220;touch&#8221; as anything more than flying over it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One doesn\u2019t actually have to grab a handful of dirt. Automobiles, trains, horses, white water rafting or shoe leather would all be acceptable intermediaries. Helicopters, airplanes, hot air balloons, hang gliders or winged dragons would be excluded except for where they land. I\u2019m conflicted with ocean-going vessels that bump into territorial waters although I\u2019m inclined to consider those out of bounds too, except where they pull into port and one disembarks. Those are my personal criteria.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"other-opinions\">Other Opinions<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>However, that\u2019s the beauty of counting. Each participant defines his or her own rules. Here are some thoughts from a few readers:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Mike Lowe has flown through the Minneapolis airport four times. He figures it should count as a Minnesota visit after all those distinct layovers.<\/li><li>jlumsden has changed planes seven (soon to be nine) times in Texas. He counts Texas. He also wants to know if anyone participates in &#8220;mileage runs&#8221; to increase their frequent-flier perks.<\/li><li>Peter portrays airports as a &#8220;neutral ground&#8221; of a sort. They could be construed as conceptually removed from the physical geography underlying them.<\/li><li>Jean described an international flight that stopped in Toronto, Canada, briefly. The airport had a preclearance agreement with the United States. He passed through U.S. customs and immigration in Canada and continued forward on his journey to the U.S. as a domestic passenger. He states compellingly, &#8220;<i>I was then legally in the United States and physically in Toronto, how would you count that? I personally consider I\u2019ve never been to Canada.<\/i>&#8220;<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Those are all valid points.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"personal-travel-conundrums\">Personal Travel Conundrums<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I noted that I have this issue personally with only two U.S. counties: Shelby Co., TN (Memphis airport) and Salt Lake Co., UT (Salt Lake City airport). Fortunately I\u2019ve visited lots of other places within Tennessee and Utah so counting the overall state isn\u2019t an issue. Shelby Co. and Salt Lake Co. might come into question, although I count them according to my rules.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/graphics\/blog\/shannon-airport.jpg\" alt=\"Shannon Airport in Ireland. Photo by howderfamily.com; (CC BY-NC-SA 2.0)\"\/><figcaption>My Pathetic Visit to Ireland<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>What should I make of my single pitiful trip to Ireland when I never left Shannon Airport? I have evidence that I was there based on this photograph from the early 1990\u2019s. I could see the Irish countryside from a terminal window. Plus, I even collected a handful Irish coins (this was pre-Euro) since I had to exchange a few dollars to get a snack. Undeniably I\u2019ve been to Ireland and I\u2019ve marked it on my map.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, when prompted, my response always includes a giant, flashing neon-red asterisk next to it. I may have visited Ireland in some exceedingly narrow technical sense but I\u2019d never go so far as to say that I\u2019ve <i>experienced<\/i> Ireland. That would be pathetic. 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