{"id":7045,"date":"2011-01-16T11:38:08","date_gmt":"2011-01-16T16:38:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/blog\/?p=7045"},"modified":"2022-04-21T06:39:50","modified_gmt":"2022-04-21T11:39:50","slug":"wrong-side-atlantic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/blog\/wrong-side-atlantic\/","title":{"rendered":"Right Place &#8211; Wrong Side of the Atlantic"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I recently read the the <a href=\"https:\/\/basementgeographer.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Basement Geographer<\/a>\u2019s True Name Map of the West Kootenay\/Boundary. That, in turn, derived from an earlier project from Kalimedia. I wondered how a detailed True Name map would look for my little corner of the world as I considered the project. For now it remains on that large pile of unaccomplished things I hope to get to someday.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I did notice that a disproportionate number of place names in my area came across the Atlantic Ocean with the early European settlers, primarily the English. This makes sense as Virginia was a colony of England \/ Great Britain. A few names influenced by original Native American inhabitants remain. One example includes Potomac, from the <a href=\"https:\/\/patawomeckindiantribeofvirginia.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Patowamek<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/patawomeckindians.org\/\"> tribe<\/a>. However, most of those names fell by the wayside along with the people shoved out by the colonists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Another thought crossed my mind as I gazed at the markers. Are there instances where place names moved in the opposite direction, from North America <em>back<\/em> into England? I suspected that it might be unusual, pushing hard against a tide of human migration. But it might be feasible. I started dropping random North American locations into the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gazetteer.org.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Gazetteer of British Place Names<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anyone on the other end of that tool checking their website statistics would probably get a chuckle as they noticed my counter-intuitive queries such as Orlando, Las Vegas and Vancouver. I\u2019ll bet they thought it was another woefully geo-ignorant American who couldn\u2019t discern North America from the UK. Usually they\u2019d be right, but not this time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then I started to receive a few unlikely hits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Philadelphia<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/embed?pb=!1m18!1m12!1m3!1d9185.278291946384!2d-1.4934317379109998!3d54.86219942129807!2m3!1f0!2f0!3f0!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!3m3!1m2!1s0x487e6358579c688b%3A0xbd03c5207a1e7ee5!2sPhiladelphia%2C%20Houghton%20le%20Spring%2C%20UK!5e0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1618168856486!5m2!1sen!2sus\" style=\"border:0;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Philadelphia is a small village southwest of Sunderland in Tyne and Wear. I didn\u2019t think that this Philadelphia got its name from the one in Pennsylvania when I spotted it. I thought it more likely that the naming came independently from the same Greek phrase for &#8220;brotherly love.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So I was wrong. The designation <em>did<\/em> cross the Atlantic in the opposite direction. I also learned a new word: colliery; which refers to a coal mine and it\u2019s supporting buildings and equipment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ll let <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thenorthernecho.co.uk\/archive\/2002\/09\/20\/The+North+East+Archive\/7059193.Looking_for_the_beginning_and_the_end_of_Philadelphia_story\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Northern Echo newspaper explain<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;Philadelphia on Wearside derives from its larger namesake, The City of Brotherly Love, in Pennsylvania\u2026 a local mine owner gave the name to his colliery to commemorate a British victory in the American War of Independence\u2026 When names such as Philadelphia occur in England, they usually derive from an old name for a field. A field that is situated furthest from a farmhouse is often given a name such as Nova Scotia, Philadelphia or California to emphasise its distance. In most parts of the country, such field names go unnoticed, but in our region colliery towns and villages often sprang up in the neighbourhood and took the name of the field. Colliery owners also sometimes chose exotic names for their collieries, and this is why we find places in the North-East called Toronto, Quebec and New York.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>That\u2019s similar to terms used generically on the American side of the Atlantic to reference distant places such as &#8220;the back 40,&#8221; Siberia or \u201cEast Bum\u2013&#8221; (well, you get the idea). The article also explained that the local cricket field became &#8220;Bunker Hill&#8221; to commemorate another British victory (<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Battle_of_Bunker_Hill#Aftermath\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">sort-of<\/a>) during the same war. I noticed they didn\u2019t have anything commemorating the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.britishbattles.com\/war-of-the-revolution-1775-to-1783\/battle-of-yorktown\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Battle of Yorktown<\/a>, however.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">California<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/embed?pb=!1m14!1m8!1m3!1d77415.52536949696!2d1.719599!3d52.673791!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!3m3!1m2!1s0x47da076c9b854ebb%3A0x76a38a18f1d060ad!2sCalifornia%2C%20Great%20Yarmouth%20NR29%203QX%2C%20UK!5e0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1618168961683!5m2!1sen!2sus\" style=\"border:0;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A few minor places in England became California. They fell primarily into the explanation provided above from what I can determine. One California location north of Great Yarmouth in Norfolk had a more precise lineage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.californiatavern.co.uk\/history\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">a local tavern<\/a> named after the village, &#8220;Around 1840 a group of beachmen from Winterton moved south and established the California settlement which was so named because of Gold coins being found in the cliffs at the time of the California Gold Rush.&#8221; Another <a href=\"http:\/\/www.beachside-holidays.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">source<\/a> said even more precisely, &#8220;On May 11th, 1848 a quantity of sixteenth century gold coins was found at the foot of the cliffs near Scratby by local beachmen. At the same time the California gold rush in America was much in the news. The beachmen decided that their new village needed a name \u2013 and California, Norfolk came into being.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Truth or legend? Who knows. It\u2019s the Intertubes after all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">America<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/embed?pb=!1m14!1m8!1m3!1d4719.995593744846!2d-1.6071530000000003!3d53.736114!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!3m3!1m2!1s0x48795fd1f792fe67%3A0x74b5c1d9ffda1d62!2sAmerica%20Moor%20Ln%2C%20Morley%2C%20Leeds%2C%20UK!5e0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1618169020962!5m2!1sen!2sus\" style=\"border:0;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I thought variations on America might be more popular but I found only a single reference in the Gazetteer, for America Moor outside of Leeds in Yorkshire. I couldn\u2019t find America Moor as a distinct place on a map. However, be careful if you search for this on your own. Google confuses it with cinematic content that\u2019s inappropriate for this website. The only remnant appears to be an obscure street called America Moor Lane.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I couldn\u2019t trace a history. Someone might have named it directly for Amerigo Vespucci for all I know.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Not an Example, but Amusing Nonetheless<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/maps\/embed?pb=!1m24!1m8!1m3!1d153566.87726255227!2d-0.07949!3d53.029666!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1!4m13!3e0!4m5!1s0x4878733cdd575f91%3A0x69a8451d0e471241!2sNew%20York%2C%20Lincoln%20LN4%204YD%2C%20UK!3m2!1d53.079010999999994!2d-0.13783589999999998!4m5!1s0x47d7c2c53856f733%3A0x8406d541f1a0910c!2sBoston%2C%20UK!3m2!1d52.978939999999994!2d-0.026577!5e0!3m2!1sen!2sus!4v1618169084925!5m2!1sen!2sus\" style=\"border:0;\" allowfullscreen=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"600\" height=\"450\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>New York and Boston are towns in Lincolnshire. This New York was named after the York in England, and this Boston gave its name to the one in Massachusetts so they don\u2019t fit the backwards naming convention. Even so this may be the only time one can drive from New York to Boston in less than twenty minutes \u2014 and heading <em>south<\/em>!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Totally Unrelated<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/drmillerlg\/29408044277\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/1863\/29408044277_b7fabcda67_b.jpg\" alt=\"Sweet Tea, Pork Skins. Photo by Lawrence G. Miller; (CC BY-NC 2.0)\"\/><\/a><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>An interesting article appeared in the Washington Post today, &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2011\/01\/15\/AR2011011503988.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">D.C. area and Dixie drifting farther and farther apart<\/a>.&#8221; It discusses both the use of Dixie as a business names and the Sweet Tea Line. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/blog\/?p=3811\">I\u2019ve mentioned sweet tea<\/a> before.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My background provides anecdotal evidence to support the premise. Absolutely, I was born south of the Sweet Tea Line. However today I live north of the line. I am a sweet tea drinker in a foreign land where it\u2019s practically unavailable. 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