{"id":13649,"date":"2013-07-04T09:29:44","date_gmt":"2013-07-04T14:29:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/blog\/?p=13649"},"modified":"2022-02-28T07:37:47","modified_gmt":"2022-02-28T12:37:47","slug":"trouble-records","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/blog\/trouble-records\/","title":{"rendered":"The Trouble with Records"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I try to approach &#8220;<em>-est<\/em>&#8221; claims skeptically. Those are ones that purport to be the largest, tallest, longest, smallest, fastest, and so on. Often I&#8217;ll use qualifiers such as likely, possibly, or supposedly, to hedge my bets even when fact-checking seems to confirm an assertion. Predictably, someone in the 12MC audience will discover a more extreme example, and frankly, that type of interaction is one of the reasons I enjoy the site so much. I learn something new every day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s easier to eat crow when I can respond to a comment and say legitimately, &#8220;well, I never claimed it was <em>absolutely<\/em> the quickest path between <a href=\"\/blog\/?p=13171\">Mianus<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.middelfart.dk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Middelfart<\/a>, just a very quick path&#8221; or whatever nonsense might be necessary to extricate myself from embarrassment. <a href=\"\/blog\/?p=13391\">Bad things<\/a> happen when I get too cocky and make bold assertions. Qualifiers allow me to save a little face even when I know I&#8217;m dead wrong. Start a sentence with an overworked clich\u00e9 like &#8220;some say&#8221; and any crazy claim imaginable can be tossed out recklessly to the public without concern.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Some Say<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>So, <strong><em>some say&#8230;<\/em><\/strong> that the &#8220;Famous&#8221; Star Hotel in Moffat, Dumfries and Galloway, Scotland is the world&#8217;s narrowest hotel. I discovered that happy declaration as I researched <a href=\"\/blog\/?p=13633\">Little Miss Muffet<\/a> the other evening. Anyone who has read Twelve Mile Circle for even a short time already understands that I&#8217;m a sucker for exactly this kind of oddity. I once went out of my way for <a href=\"\/blog\/?p=4177\">a large shoe<\/a>. I&#8217;d do the same for an ultra-skinny, record-shattering hotel. If I were in Scotland. Which I&#8217;m not.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/aroberts\/2860302124\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/3034\/2860302124_d32f60730e_b.jpg\" alt=\"Moffat Star Hotel. Photo by Andy Roberts; (CC BY 2.0).\"\/><\/a><figcaption>Moffat Star Hotel<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>I examined photographic evidence. It certainly looked sufficiently slender to grapple for the title.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The hotel <a href=\"https:\/\/www.famousstarhotel.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">proudly proclaimed<\/a> that it &#8220;<em>found its fame for being the world\u2019s narrowest hotel AS MENTIONED IN THE GUINESS [sic.] BOOK OF RECORDS. At only 20ft wide and 162ft long. The Famous Star Hotel may be narrow but it has a BIG personality.<\/em>&#8221; That&#8217;s some bold capitalization. Various sources claimed (another &#8220;some say&#8221; alert) that the width may have had something to do with taxation in the late 1700&#8217;s when the hotel was constructed; taxation based on building frontage encouraged narrow structures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It should be easy enough to confirm using the Search Records box at the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.guinnessworldrecords.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Officially Amazing Guinness World Records<\/a> website. That&#8217;s what it calls itself now &#8212; The Officially Amazing Guinness World Records. Officially. Amazing. We also need to take a logical leap that Guinness is infallible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Let&#8217;s see<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.guinnessworldrecords.com\/search?term=%2A\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Narrowest Hotel<\/a>: zero results<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>Maybe I need to loosen the criteria.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/tompagenet\/49554186027\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/live.staticflickr.com\/65535\/49554186027_3b81cd393f_b.jpg\" alt=\"IMG_20191104_074415. Photo by Tom Page; (CC BY-SA 2.0)\"\/><\/a><figcaption>Armada Hotel, Istanbul<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.guinnessworldrecords.com\/search?term=narrowest&amp;page=1&amp;type=all&amp;max=20&amp;partial=_Results&amp;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Narrowest<\/a>: narrowest America&#8217;s Cup finishing margin&#8230; narrowest street&#8230; narrowest j-turn&#8230; narrowest optic fiber channels. Nope. No hotel.<\/li><li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.guinnessworldrecords.com\/search?term=Hotel&amp;page=1&amp;type=all&amp;max=20&amp;partial=_Results&amp;\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Hotel<\/a>: A bunch of results including Farthest Milk Squirting Distance because it took place at a hotel, &#8220;<em>Ilker Yilmaz (Turkey) squirted milk from his eye a distance of 279.5 cm (9 ft 2 in) at the Armada Hotel, Istanbul, Turkey on 1 September 2004<\/em>&#8221; just in case you were curious (<a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/maps\/Ya27KQ5KSRuFxqpp9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">map<\/a>). No mention of narrowest hotel either, or any term related to or implying narrowest.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">So What Happened?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>The Star Hotel displays a certificate from Guinness to verify its claim so I don&#8217;t doubt its sincerity. A number of things could have happened.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>Guinness could have discontinued the category<\/li><li>The record may have been set too recently to make it into the database<\/li><li>The online database isn&#8217;t as comprehensive as the book to make readers want to purchase the publication<\/li><\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;d bet on the third option. Getting my hands on a print version of Guinness World Records would entail effort though, and well, I&#8217;m not sufficiently interested in the topic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">A Plot Twist<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><a href=\"https:\/\/goo.gl\/maps\/cgyx6QwY4JSGmKJr9\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.howderfamily.com\/graphics\/blog\/hotel_molinos_granada_spain.png\" alt=\"Hotel Molinos in Granada, Spain. Google Street View screen capture; February 2009.\"\/><\/a><figcaption>Hotel Molinos, Granada<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>The claim was further complicated by a similar assertion from the Hotel Molinos in Granada, Spain, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hotelmolinos.es\/index.php\/en\/guinness-granada-hotel.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">which said<\/a>, &#8220;<em>Hotel awarded the Guinness record for being the world&#8217;s narrowest hotel, 5 meters at its narrowest and 5.20 meters at the widest, with a depth of 16.40 m.<\/em>&#8221; Their website also included a copy of the Guinness certificate in Spanish (&#8220;<em>el hotel mas estrecho<\/em>&#8220;). It&#8217;s maximum width, 5.20 metres (17.06 feet) shaved nearly a metre from the Scottish claim at the Star Hotel.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>What&#8217;s going on? Some poking around the Intertubes demonstrated that the Star Hotel might be only the narrowest <em>free-standing<\/em> hotel. This post is not intended to pick on the Star Hotel. I&#8217;ll accept at face value that it obtained a Guinness certificate. I&#8217;ll also assume good faith. Rather, I&#8217;m using this confusing situation as an object lesson to illustrate the problem of -est. Would I stay at the Star Hotel if I happened to travel to Moffat? Sure, why not. It&#8217;s still extremely skinny, plus it has two bars and free WiFi. It doesn&#8217;t take much to make me happy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>However, it does call into question other claims made about Moffat, particularly those included on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.scotland.com\/blog\/star-hotel-in-moffat-scotland-has-made-it-to-the-guinness-book\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Scotland.com<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>&#8220;When you stand outside on the front steps of Star Hotel and look right and you can see across to Syme Street, the narrowest street in Scotland. 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